Showing posts with label NatWest. Show all posts
Showing posts with label NatWest. Show all posts

Saturday, 30 June 2012

NatWest fiasco: the meltdown, the impact, and the aftermath

The botched software upgrade at NatWest and RBS has affected millions of people

The drama began on the night of 19 June when Royal Bank of Scotland discovered what was described as a computer glitch, which was preventing payments to and from accounts at NatWest, RBS and Ulster Bank. The botched software upgrade has affected millions of people, both the bank's own customers and those expecting payments from accounts held by these banks. The problems have affected savings and offset mortgages as well as current accounts.


The Guardian's investigations suggest things began unravelling when the bank updated a key piece of software called CA-7.


The bank was quick to deny suggestions that the "offshoring" of IT jobs to India had led to the problems. However, technology website The Register claimed a serious error committed by an "inexperienced operative" – who may be based in India – caused the meltdown.


RBS/NatWest/Ulster Bank customers The unprecedented meltdown meant millions of customers were unable to see how much money was in their accounts and whether bills had been paid. It left a defendant behind bars over the weekend after his bail money failed to arrive, and resulted in at least one family being forced out of their home. Some customers said they had no option but to take out payday loans to cover costs.


On 28 June, with the crisis into its 10th day, it was clear that while normal service had resumed for some, other people's finances were still in chaos.


Customers continued to relate their tales of woe on NatWest's website forum. "Anyone know what is happening? A cleared balance of £400 but my available balance is nil? I'm panicking as my mortgage is due to be paid and my hubby's wage is in tomorrow [29 June]. Things seemed OK at last, and now this?" said one poster from West Yorkshire. Another, in Nottinghamshire, said: "I have just been to the bank and yet again for the second week no wages, so is the problem not fixed …"


A customer in Brighton added: "I just called the hotline to find out why the cheque I paid in Monday was not showing and was told that anything paid in at the start of the week was stuck in a backlog and they hoped the money would be in my account some time late next week."


On 27 June, the bank said "the vast majority" of customers' account balances should be up to date, and that the "small amount" of outstanding unprocessed transactions was continuing to reduce.


It said future payments, such as salaries, should also be processed as usual.


But it emerged that as many as 100,000 customers with Ulster Bank have been told they will not have access to their money until Monday 2 July at the earliest.


Non-customers Many of those caught up in the fiasco aren't even NatWest/RBS/Ulster Bank customers, but have been hit financially because their employer banks with the group, and their wages did not appear in their account on time.


There have been reports of people unable to buy food or pay their rent. Some people have told of direct debits being returned unpaid because of lack of funds, triggering late payment charges.


Which? says other banks should treat customers who have been affected by the problems "positively and sympathetically". Anecdotal evidence suggests this has been happening, with reports of charges being waived where late salaries had resulted in payments not going through and charges being incurred.


One high street bank told Guardian Money it was keeping a tally of these costs and would be passing them on to NatWest/RBS. The bank, which didn't want to be named, said there had been cases where people hadn't been able to complete their house purchase, so it had stepped in.


"The funds didn't come through but we knew they were there, so we covered it in the knowledge that we will get the money back from NatWest. There were quite a few cases where that happened on Friday [22 June]."


Another high street bank told Money that tens of thousands of its customers had been hit by the technical issues.


"We did see some increase in call volumes from customers late last week and over the weekend, but call volumes have now returned to normal," the bank told us on Wednesday.


Small businesses NatWest alone has almost one million small business customers, and it emerged that some were paralysed by the RBS/NatWest fiasco, finding themselves unable to pay salaries or invoices.


The 200,000-member Federation of Small Businesses (FSB) says people running small firms that bank with the group, and who have experienced problems, should first of all go to their branch or call the bank. 


They may later want to approach the Financial Ombudsman Service.


"Throughout this process, it is also advisable that small firms check with those who are expecting money to see if they have received it," adds an FSB spokeswoman.


What the bank is doing NatWest/RBS this week extended opening hours in hundreds of branches. Many will be open on 30 June from 8am until 4pm.


The banking group said it had arranged for customers to be advanced cash over the counter in cases where they had run out of money and needed to make payments.


Current account customers with a NatWest, RBS or Mint credit card "in good order" have been able to withdraw up to £100 over their limit without incurring fees or charges – although some will be levied but then refunded.


Complaints, refunds and compensation The bank promised that "no customers will be out of pocket as a result of these issues", adding: "We can confirm that any fees and charges incurred by customers will be fully refunded. This includes charges levied by a third party – for example, if you were late paying a non-RBS credit card or mortgage because your account wrongly showed there wasn't sufficient cash."


But as Money went to press, the bank hadn't said much about whether it will be compensating non-customers.


A spokeswoman told the Guardian: "We have been talking to other banks about how to cover any costs incurred by non-customers. We have agreed that anyone affected should speak to their own bank in the first instance."


NatWest/RBS customers who want to make a complaint should go to bit.ly/QrQvnF or bit.ly/N75xL2. If you are not a customer, go to bit.ly/N75Ghx or bit.ly/QrRbta


Consumer body Which? advises those affected to lodge a formal complaint "as soon as possible". It adds: "Give the bank a detailed account of any costs that you have incurred and payments that have been missed, both to and from your account. Also, be sure to stress the impact on you of any distress or inconvenience."


The bank has up to eight weeks to resolve your complaint. After that, you can go to the Financial Ombudsman Service.


When the ombudsman upholds a complaint, its aim is to put the customer into the financial position they would have been in. There is no automatic entitlement to extra compensation for disruption caused, and nothing in the rules that requires the bank to pay for non-direct losses, such as someone missing the chance to buy flights at the price they wanted.


In some cases the ombudsman will make an award for "non-financial loss", that is for "pain and suffering, damage to reputation, distress or inconvenience".


The impact on people's credit ratings NatWest/RBS claims that there should be no adverse impact to credit ratings. But those caught up in the fiasco may wish to check their credit record over the coming weeks to make sure their rating hasn't been damaged.


Those about to apply for a loan or mortgage should be especially vigilant.


Credit reference agency Experian says the banks have promised that any adverse data caused by the IT problems will not be sent to them. However, in the case of non-NatWest/RBS customers, creditors might not spot the root of the problem before data is sent to the agencies.


It costs £2 to get a copy of your credit file, and it is unclear whether NatWest/RBS will reimburse these fees. An alternative is to sign up for a 30-day free trial of the credit monitoring service offered by Equifax or Experian – but remember to cancel your membership before the 30 days are up, or you will incur a monthly fee.


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Sunday, 24 June 2012

NatWest customers fear running out of food and electricity

NatWest's extended opening hours which saw some branches opening on Sunday for the first time has done little to appease angry customers.

Customers affected by the NatWest fiasco are venting their fury on the bank's online customer forum, which has became a diary of distress, distrust and disillusionment.


Some feared running out of food and electricity as they were unable to physically get to the bank's branches to withdraw cash. Others claimed if direct debits went unpaid, homes and holidays, theatre and gig tickets, even weddings were at risk from missed payments. And with some still unable to access online accounts on Sunday afternoon, there were calls for compensation.


The posts indicated the breadth of the disruption across the UK, and the knock on effect on those who were not themselves customers.


"You have stuffed us," wrote philsmiler, from near Corby, Lincs, on the NatWest forum. "We have to attempt to get to your bank in the morning. I'm disabled in a wheelchair and my daughter's autistic but we have to as we have no food left and electric on less than 50p. Family of 6 it's unfair and ridiculous".


"I should of been paid Friday," wrote nothing left from the Midlands. "I have cancer and I'm very ill at present. I'm down to my last pence and can't afford electric meter".


"When will this be sorted out," pleaded Barrow, from Rickmansworth. "I have my wedding next Saturday. Will we have food to eat as I can't pay caterers and disco, so no money, no wedding. thank you".


"Mum was relying on her pension on Thursday, she's 74 and she couldn't access her account or savings for money. I travelled 32 miles to give her the pension money, and I'll have to travel another 32 to get it back off her. Shame on you's for all of this," was another contribution.


Anger remained the overwhelming emotion, with many spelling out the extreme disruption caused to their daily lives.


"Unable to get petrol yesterday and missed a full day's work which will be unpaid, very unhappy," said one from Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire.


"I only have enough diesel to get to work 50 miles away. I have no money in the bank until tomorrow which will enable me to get back home. Will my wages be in my account? inquired another, from Portsmouth.


Some suggested physically taking payslips into NatWest branches as proof to withdraw cash. Others, on benefits which had not registered as being paid, would be unable to do so. "Not had any money in my account since Friday, carers allowance, child tax credit. Went into bank who told me they can't give me any money if it does not show on my balance, so how to they expect me to buy food."


Others were concerned about incurring penalty charges for late payments.


"Can't pay credit card, got £12 charge, NOT GOOD. Got D/D going out soon will these be affected?" wrote a customer from Kent, who called for a gesture of goodwill from NatWest '"to all its inconvenienced customers who could receive charges from 3rd parties due to 'lack of funds'".


By 11am on Sunday one employer from Harlow was "still trying to pay 8 guys wages from Friday, most are young lads that rely on this money".


A customer from south Gloucestershire complained his mobile phone had been "cut off because you have not honoured my direct debits from both my business and personal accounts".


The bank's extended opening hours, including opening on a Sunday for the first time, did little to appease many. "Absolutely pathetic," wrote Ken from Warrington. "I don't even bank with NatWest but my wages are paid out of it. It's not as if I can go into a branch and ask for money. Why was there no back up system in place?"


A another bemoaned: "Still can't access account online. Am in Bulgaria… obviously I can't get to a local branch."


One resident of Aberdeen wrote: "After an 11-minute call to the premium-rate 0845 call centre number I was assured that Aberdeen's only branch of NatWest would be open Saturday . After an 18 miles round trip I found it was not open at all. LIARS. Next branch is Dundee – 60 miles away."


Some, however, managed to remain sanguine. "No pension, no gas, no electricity. However, things have been worse in life and I am not dying. Mistakes happen to everyone," wrote a contributor, from West Cornforth, County Durham.


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